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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;Avatar&#8217; Movie Review &#8211; Good, Bad and Indifferent (Spoiler Alert!!)</title>
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		<title>By: Soothsayer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Soothsayer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 20:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As mentioned above, this movie, like every other movie out there, is a rehash of the same old stuff...  the same story, the same characters, but with different visuals.

I&#039;ve been reading a lot lately on how racial this movie was.  Really?  Because it didn&#039;t have any humans of color?  Big deal...  how many white people do you see on BET?

As far as the plot goes, and how the Na&#039;vi are &quot;black&quot;...  get off it.  The world doesn&#039;t revolve around the idea that blacks are being oppressed all the time.  If anything, this movie was a retelling of &quot;Dances With Wolves&quot;; it even shared characters, plot, and dialog.

It was a good movie, a stunning movie.  Original?  No, not by far.  Racial?  Not even close.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As mentioned above, this movie, like every other movie out there, is a rehash of the same old stuff&#8230;  the same story, the same characters, but with different visuals.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been reading a lot lately on how racial this movie was.  Really?  Because it didn&#8217;t have any humans of color?  Big deal&#8230;  how many white people do you see on BET?</p>
<p>As far as the plot goes, and how the Na&#8217;vi are &#8220;black&#8221;&#8230;  get off it.  The world doesn&#8217;t revolve around the idea that blacks are being oppressed all the time.  If anything, this movie was a retelling of &#8220;Dances With Wolves&#8221;; it even shared characters, plot, and dialog.</p>
<p>It was a good movie, a stunning movie.  Original?  No, not by far.  Racial?  Not even close.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Sprat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack Sprat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 22:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think everyone agrees that the movie was, in a word, breathtaking! Hats off to the talent compiled to put such an epic together.

For me, that leaves us with the need to pick at SOMETHING. The way the plot was delivered left something to be desired and given the casting of the &#039;bad guys&#039;, can see where one could be left with a feeling that &#039;whitey bad&#039; everyone else good. Not a single prominent non-white on the corporation&#039;s side. Even the pilot - the hispanic hottie - ends up defecting to the side of the na&#039;vi. I don&#039;t think that the movie was racist in any deliberate sense and I don&#039;t think that is what the reviewer was stating. I think that it was the easy way to split good verses evil and not particularly fair. I&#039;m sure it was done on purpose just to create this kind of converstation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think everyone agrees that the movie was, in a word, breathtaking! Hats off to the talent compiled to put such an epic together.</p>
<p>For me, that leaves us with the need to pick at SOMETHING. The way the plot was delivered left something to be desired and given the casting of the &#8216;bad guys&#8217;, can see where one could be left with a feeling that &#8216;whitey bad&#8217; everyone else good. Not a single prominent non-white on the corporation&#8217;s side. Even the pilot &#8211; the hispanic hottie &#8211; ends up defecting to the side of the na&#8217;vi. I don&#8217;t think that the movie was racist in any deliberate sense and I don&#8217;t think that is what the reviewer was stating. I think that it was the easy way to split good verses evil and not particularly fair. I&#8217;m sure it was done on purpose just to create this kind of converstation.</p>
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		<title>By: Marie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 18:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Racism, like beauty, seems to be indeed in the eye of the beholder...

I didn&#039;t know who Eytiri was played by, and I thought that it was a Hispanic woman (I actually thought Penelope Cruz!) becaue of her accent.

From the horse-like creatures to the calling signs, from the symbiotic relatuionship with the planet to the adulthood rites, even the speech sounding and them calling themselves &quot;the People&quot; (what the Sioux call themselves), all I saw and heard, including the story itself, made me think solely of Native Americans. Not one Black in sight, sorry. 

What I thought throughout the film was, because of the powerfully evoked Indian imagery, was &quot;Dances with Wolves&quot; set in outer space. But racism? Nah. If anything, it is a telling example of what human beings will do to one another when greed gets in the way, regardless of colour or creed. Accuse the Templars of heresy and burn them all after appropriating their wealth. The Holocaust. Every colonial war. Come on, we have a nasty history as a species to take what we want when we want and justify it under any pretext.

So let&#039;s drop the &quot;racist&quot; tag, please. Yes, the plot is simple. So is Die Hard&#039;s, 2012&#039;s, and indeed the vast majority of movies ever made. But it is beautifully made and grabs us throughout, and I don&#039;t now of anyone coming out disappointed... Isn&#039;t that what great cinema is all about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Racism, like beauty, seems to be indeed in the eye of the beholder&#8230;</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t know who Eytiri was played by, and I thought that it was a Hispanic woman (I actually thought Penelope Cruz!) becaue of her accent.</p>
<p>From the horse-like creatures to the calling signs, from the symbiotic relatuionship with the planet to the adulthood rites, even the speech sounding and them calling themselves &#8220;the People&#8221; (what the Sioux call themselves), all I saw and heard, including the story itself, made me think solely of Native Americans. Not one Black in sight, sorry. </p>
<p>What I thought throughout the film was, because of the powerfully evoked Indian imagery, was &#8220;Dances with Wolves&#8221; set in outer space. But racism? Nah. If anything, it is a telling example of what human beings will do to one another when greed gets in the way, regardless of colour or creed. Accuse the Templars of heresy and burn them all after appropriating their wealth. The Holocaust. Every colonial war. Come on, we have a nasty history as a species to take what we want when we want and justify it under any pretext.</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s drop the &#8220;racist&#8221; tag, please. Yes, the plot is simple. So is Die Hard&#8217;s, 2012&#8217;s, and indeed the vast majority of movies ever made. But it is beautifully made and grabs us throughout, and I don&#8217;t now of anyone coming out disappointed&#8230; Isn&#8217;t that what great cinema is all about?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jan 2010 05:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A cursory look at history tells us that many indigenous societies have been subject to destruction for economic gain. To the extent that it echoes history, the story of Avatar is no exaggeration. One may desire more ambiguities to more closely reflect real situations, or have the evil characters show some degree of self-doubt (as indeed Selfridge does), but Cameron is justified in simplifying real stories to display their skeleton - historical fact is not contradicted, as we can see from the results of such events we learn about from history. It is surprising that the reviewer seems unable to see that analogs of every aspect of the central story can be found in historical fact. One wonders indeed whether the denial of the basic truth of the story reflects a desire to gild history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A cursory look at history tells us that many indigenous societies have been subject to destruction for economic gain. To the extent that it echoes history, the story of Avatar is no exaggeration. One may desire more ambiguities to more closely reflect real situations, or have the evil characters show some degree of self-doubt (as indeed Selfridge does), but Cameron is justified in simplifying real stories to display their skeleton &#8211; historical fact is not contradicted, as we can see from the results of such events we learn about from history. It is surprising that the reviewer seems unable to see that analogs of every aspect of the central story can be found in historical fact. One wonders indeed whether the denial of the basic truth of the story reflects a desire to gild history.</p>
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		<title>By: Herman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Herman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 20:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The truth is that if you walk into a movie looking to break it down to its components you will always find two things.

The first is the same old boring story. undreds of thousands of movies have been made since the invention of the &quot;video camera&quot; ( I use this term very loosely) and there really are no new ideas. What James Cameron did was simply present this one in a new and quite stunning way.

The second is racism. It&#039;s everywhere as long as you&#039;re looking for it. As a junior in high school my class&#039;s pep rally theme was the nick show &quot;Rocket Power&quot; in which a white character named &quot;Squid&quot; had a &quot;N&quot; on his shirt because he was from Nebraska. The principal forced the class designer to remove the &quot;N&quot; because he felt it was racial. Take that Nickelodeon, you racist people. And I guess Disney should be sued for &quot;The Princess and the Frog&quot; as the original plot line (which has been used a thousand times) was &quot;Historical&quot; in having the protagonist (black girl) as a maid to a white Louisianan family. But don&#039;t worry,they made sure that after complaints they took away her job and living quarters as a maid and made her a waitress. Serving white people. So much better.

Ok, sorry for the rant. But I must agree with both Lance and Karen, &quot;Avatar&#039;s&quot; teachings were quite in depth and I saw it as an extended metaphor for most of history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The truth is that if you walk into a movie looking to break it down to its components you will always find two things.</p>
<p>The first is the same old boring story. undreds of thousands of movies have been made since the invention of the &#8220;video camera&#8221; ( I use this term very loosely) and there really are no new ideas. What James Cameron did was simply present this one in a new and quite stunning way.</p>
<p>The second is racism. It&#8217;s everywhere as long as you&#8217;re looking for it. As a junior in high school my class&#8217;s pep rally theme was the nick show &#8220;Rocket Power&#8221; in which a white character named &#8220;Squid&#8221; had a &#8220;N&#8221; on his shirt because he was from Nebraska. The principal forced the class designer to remove the &#8220;N&#8221; because he felt it was racial. Take that Nickelodeon, you racist people. And I guess Disney should be sued for &#8220;The Princess and the Frog&#8221; as the original plot line (which has been used a thousand times) was &#8220;Historical&#8221; in having the protagonist (black girl) as a maid to a white Louisianan family. But don&#8217;t worry,they made sure that after complaints they took away her job and living quarters as a maid and made her a waitress. Serving white people. So much better.</p>
<p>Ok, sorry for the rant. But I must agree with both Lance and Karen, &#8220;Avatar&#8217;s&#8221; teachings were quite in depth and I saw it as an extended metaphor for most of history.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 12:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Same here. I didn&#039;t see anything racial in this movie. I didn&#039;t even recognize that Zoe was black until I came home and saw some pictures of her. I am being completely honest when I tell you that &quot;skin color&quot; didn&#039;t even enter my mind while watching Avatar. 

It&#039;s interesting how we all can interpret films differently. I connected it to the Iraqi War at times, but do realize that the symbolism stretches far beyond that. 

I found the movie&#039;s teachings, so to speak, to be very complex and multidimensional. For example, I didn&#039;t find it narrowing in to one single message - if there even was one at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same here. I didn&#8217;t see anything racial in this movie. I didn&#8217;t even recognize that Zoe was black until I came home and saw some pictures of her. I am being completely honest when I tell you that &#8220;skin color&#8221; didn&#8217;t even enter my mind while watching Avatar. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting how we all can interpret films differently. I connected it to the Iraqi War at times, but do realize that the symbolism stretches far beyond that. </p>
<p>I found the movie&#8217;s teachings, so to speak, to be very complex and multidimensional. For example, I didn&#8217;t find it narrowing in to one single message &#8211; if there even was one at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Lance L. Landon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lance L. Landon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 03:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did not notice any racial profiling in the acting of Zoe Saldana staring as Neytiri in Avatar. I only found out who she was this evening after seeing the movie in IMAX-3D this morning. I think the plot is quite appropriate for our times. The English attempted to keep lording over us. We destroyed the lives of countless American Indians and our own environment. Today, selfish powers, often in the guise of corporations do all they can to ruin the lives of everyone in the world including the environment. Science Fiction is always an excellent vehicle to attest to the present in a futuristic setting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not notice any racial profiling in the acting of Zoe Saldana staring as Neytiri in Avatar. I only found out who she was this evening after seeing the movie in IMAX-3D this morning. I think the plot is quite appropriate for our times. The English attempted to keep lording over us. We destroyed the lives of countless American Indians and our own environment. Today, selfish powers, often in the guise of corporations do all they can to ruin the lives of everyone in the world including the environment. Science Fiction is always an excellent vehicle to attest to the present in a futuristic setting.</p>
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